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Possible Story Ideas
03-03-2010, 07:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-03-2010, 07:29 AM by cloudwolf.)
RE: Possible Story Ideas
Well the Trinity Killcode that EPN/Cyph have serves a pretty good purpose in denying The Oligarch's Matrix access. Then you can take the fight to them in Real/use them as arbortory characters if you really wanted.

Not a fan of them just becoming another General for the Merv tho.

The thing to remember is the Machines couldn't (or at the very least didn't want to) destroy The Oligarchs in the real. This shit is a deeply seeded centuries long relationship. I think saying "The machines go lolpwn them" or "The machines just write them out of teh matricks" is taking too much of a 2 dimensional stance on the mindset of the Machine. Rare touched on some fairly enlightening ideas as to the Machine physche (both in their rationale in preserving humanity and in their uneasy relationship with the Oligarchs). They're not just cold blooded killers/rulers of the universe that want to kill everything that moves. They ended the Truce because they thought Zion was going to build up an offensive under the radar. They felt threatened.

Whatever happens, IF the Oligarchs are going to be removed in part by The Machines, those control rountines need to be removed somehow. Not just with some anti-override codes written by an overwritten lackey to do with Matrix related powers. These are at the very basis of the Machine's evolution since establishing 01. They're WHY the Machines can't take on The Oligarchs (whether they have the means to or not).

And without the Machines fighting somewhere along the way I can hardly see humanity standing up the Oligarchs, look what happens to EPN trying to take on a single kingdom state.

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Edit: As for The Machines creating the BIP proving superiority, it was the culmination of centuries of research into the human genome and mapping it to machine code. The Oligarchs were too busy in-fighting to take such an undertaking. Not to mention they simply wouldnt've had the sample size or motivation to co-operate (as evidenced by the squabbling to get the BIP in the first place). If they weren't insane and wanted to at the time, yeah, they probably could've made the BIP collaborating the Machines. But it didn't happen. Doesn't mean they're inferior, technologically.

Besides, as I mention above, it doesn't matter who was stronger militarily/technologically (pretty sure we can all agree The Machines), it's the fact the reprogramming makes it impossible for them to raise a finger to them. Counciously or otherwise.

Edit2: Also, it was never Rare's intention to straight out kill them all. The killcode and/or reset was only designed to severely weaken them/kill those already transferred to human bodies who were connected to The Matrix at the time/enable the Machines to revolt. There were always going to be remnants left (to be cleaned up or used down the line I suppose).
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Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-23-2010, 11:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-23-2010, 12:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-23-2010, 01:29 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-23-2010, 01:41 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neo VII - 02-23-2010, 01:49 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-23-2010, 04:15 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Valaro - 02-23-2010, 11:55 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Yamakuzy - 02-24-2010, 12:38 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Yamakuzy - 02-24-2010, 04:03 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Valaro - 02-24-2010, 04:02 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 07:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 07:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 08:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 08:58 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 09:13 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 11:05 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 11:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 12:02 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 02:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 08:43 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 10:51 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 11:04 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 11:54 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 02:40 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:50 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 04:01 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 04:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 04:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 04:54 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 06:18 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 06:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 07:23 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 08:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 08:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 10:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 10:24 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 10:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 11:24 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 11:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 11:49 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 12:42 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 01:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 01:34 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 02:26 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 02:38 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 03:50 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:54 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:21 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-26-2010, 03:26 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-27-2010, 05:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 04:55 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 05:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 09:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 09:33 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 12:37 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by EichDee - 02-26-2010, 04:31 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 11:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-27-2010, 02:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 02:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Twaggy - 02-27-2010, 02:41 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 03:30 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 04:07 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-27-2010, 04:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 07:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 07:42 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 08:08 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-27-2010, 05:22 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 08:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 09:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 10:09 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 09:53 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-01-2010, 02:46 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-28-2010, 12:40 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-28-2010, 12:51 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-28-2010, 07:26 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 01:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 03:20 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 04:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 05:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 07:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 08:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 10:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 11:04 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 01:30 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 02:47 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 03:52 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 12:00 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 06:18 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 01:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:04 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 03:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 03:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 04:14 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 04:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 06:25 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 06:42 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 03-03-2010, 06:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 06:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 07:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 03-03-2010, 08:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 09:30 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 09:53 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 03:37 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-03-2010, 01:18 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 09:58 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 12:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-04-2010, 01:44 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 05:41 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-04-2010, 06:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 07:45 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-04-2010, 07:52 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-04-2010, 08:00 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-04-2010, 08:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-07-2010, 12:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-10-2010, 07:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-10-2010, 08:23 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-11-2010, 08:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-10-2010, 08:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-10-2010, 08:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-11-2010, 08:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-12-2010, 10:34 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-12-2010, 01:02 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-12-2010, 03:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-12-2010, 05:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-12-2010, 11:58 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by EichDee - 03-12-2010, 12:48 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-12-2010, 10:10 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-12-2010, 10:43 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Sixxth - 03-12-2010, 11:47 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neo VII - 03-13-2010, 12:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-13-2010, 01:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-13-2010, 02:08 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-13-2010, 02:39 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-13-2010, 02:44 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-13-2010, 04:31 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-13-2010, 06:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-20-2010, 08:03 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-21-2010, 01:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-21-2010, 12:12 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-21-2010, 08:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-21-2010, 10:18 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-21-2010, 11:16 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-22-2010, 01:10 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by TRX - 09-06-2011, 11:36 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 04-27-2010, 02:52 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by dean graziosi - 04-20-2011, 07:30 PM

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