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Possible Story Ideas
02-27-2010, 09:53 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-27-2010, 10:18 PM by cloudwolf.)
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RE: Possible Story Ideas
(02-27-2010, 10:09 AM)Noxton Wrote:
(02-27-2010, 09:35 AM)cloudwolf Wrote:
(02-27-2010, 08:08 AM)Noxton Wrote: You'll have to excuse me, having only played for a year and a half. I had no idea that someone actually wrote that it was always 1999. While I'm familiar with the story from start to finish, some of these minute (and ridiculous) details have slipped past me.

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/posts...6300014531

As for not playing everything out Meta, you're right, I don't see any reason why the 1999 thing would have any meaningful affect on the storyline so it can just kind of be ignored and let people make up their own minds.

I just re-read what I originally wrote... My bad, Cloudwolf, it comes off as way harsh, but I didn't intend that at all.

No worries, it's not the way I took it anyway. I can't expect everyone to remember obscure Live Events postings from years ago =P
(02-27-2010, 05:22 PM)Neoteny Wrote:
(02-27-2010, 07:21 AM)cloudwolf Wrote: The 1999 thing is MxO canon, to simply disregard it would be irresponsible.

For better or for worse MxO expanded on The Trilogy. The Oligarchs, The Trinity Program, they're all there. If we really want to carry it on post-shutdown we don't get to just pick and choose established lore.

Now, other things, you can't ignore them, but you sure can write them out if you do it right. For example, the Trinity thing wasn't ever fleshed out all that much - it's easy to write out as a distraction (given enough detail and such - you can't just say "It was a distraction, lulz").

It was fleshed out enough to make it hard to step around. It was confirmed as being written by The Oracle. It was confirmed as being directly related to Neo and his control over machines in the outside world (which sparked The Oligarch's interest in the first place). It was confirmed as being locked up in The Oligarch network and activated by emotion. It's purpose is to "help control the human population outside the simulation". It had direct knowledge of Neo and Trinity's exchanges noone else would. Ghost knew it was Trinity.

Most of these things invalidate it being Sati (wasn't written by the Oracle, Neo interfaced with machines before having ever meet Sati) and were designed to fill in a lot of holes in the story (Neo and Trinity's miracles, the device The Assassin witnessed being attached to Trinity's body etc) as well as bring some more weight to the character driven stories (Ghost, The Kid going after the Oligarchs in the real)

Don't let the fact you feel it invalidates too much of your perseption of Revelations change the fact it's the natural direction of that story. To do anything else with it would feel too artificial. Besides, if it really messed up the brother's vision they would've shot it down the same as they did humans not actually powering the machines.
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Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-23-2010, 11:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-23-2010, 12:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-23-2010, 01:29 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-23-2010, 01:41 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neo VII - 02-23-2010, 01:49 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-23-2010, 04:15 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Valaro - 02-23-2010, 11:55 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Yamakuzy - 02-24-2010, 12:38 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Yamakuzy - 02-24-2010, 04:03 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Valaro - 02-24-2010, 04:02 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 07:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 07:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 08:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 08:58 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 09:13 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 11:05 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 11:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 12:02 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 02:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 08:43 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 10:51 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 11:04 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 11:54 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 02:40 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:50 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 04:01 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 04:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 04:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 04:54 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 06:18 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 06:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 07:23 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 08:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 08:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 10:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 10:24 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 10:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 11:24 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 11:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 11:49 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 12:42 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 01:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 01:34 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 02:26 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 02:38 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 03:50 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:54 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:21 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-26-2010, 03:26 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-27-2010, 05:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 04:55 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 05:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 09:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 09:33 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 12:37 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by EichDee - 02-26-2010, 04:31 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 11:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-27-2010, 02:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 02:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Twaggy - 02-27-2010, 02:41 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 03:30 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 04:07 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-27-2010, 04:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 07:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 07:42 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 08:08 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-27-2010, 05:22 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 08:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 09:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 10:09 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 09:53 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-01-2010, 02:46 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-28-2010, 12:40 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-28-2010, 12:51 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-28-2010, 07:26 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 01:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 03:20 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 04:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 05:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 07:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 08:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 10:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 11:04 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 01:30 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 02:47 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 03:52 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 12:00 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 06:18 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 01:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:04 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 03:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 03:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 04:14 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 04:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 06:25 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 06:42 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 03-03-2010, 06:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 06:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 07:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 03-03-2010, 08:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 09:30 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 09:53 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 03:37 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-03-2010, 01:18 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 09:58 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 12:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-04-2010, 01:44 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 05:41 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-04-2010, 06:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 07:45 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-04-2010, 07:52 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-04-2010, 08:00 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-04-2010, 08:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-07-2010, 12:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-10-2010, 07:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-10-2010, 08:23 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-11-2010, 08:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-10-2010, 08:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-10-2010, 08:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-11-2010, 08:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-12-2010, 10:34 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-12-2010, 01:02 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-12-2010, 03:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-12-2010, 05:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-12-2010, 11:58 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by EichDee - 03-12-2010, 12:48 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-12-2010, 10:10 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-12-2010, 10:43 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Sixxth - 03-12-2010, 11:47 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neo VII - 03-13-2010, 12:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-13-2010, 01:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-13-2010, 02:08 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-13-2010, 02:39 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-13-2010, 02:44 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-13-2010, 04:31 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-13-2010, 06:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-20-2010, 08:03 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-21-2010, 01:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-21-2010, 12:12 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-21-2010, 08:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-21-2010, 10:18 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-21-2010, 11:16 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-22-2010, 01:10 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by TRX - 09-06-2011, 11:36 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 04-27-2010, 02:52 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by dean graziosi - 04-20-2011, 07:30 PM

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