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Possible Story Ideas
03-22-2010, 01:10 AM,
RE: Possible Story Ideas
Kid, you misunderstood what the Architect was saying.

He was saying that if Neo DOES NOT comply, boom Matrix humans will die. He never said any timeframe in which this would happen. It could take 50-100 years. It could take hours, we don't know. The point is, if the One doesn't willingly disseminate his code back into the source, then they can't restart the cycle, and people connected to the system would one by one wake up and drown in their pods, or just plain go batshit insane. There's no need to explain a timeline, because this would happen at a different pace for different people.

As for the "16 female, 7 male" that was solely to repopulate Zion. Remember how Morpheus stated, "He freed the first of us and said that he would return someday" when he explained to Neo about the One in the first movie? Well, if Neo chose that path instead of choosing Trinity, then he would have chosen to rebuild Zion (and it takes 7 males and 16 females to do lots of fuckin' to rebuild Zion) and he would have started the prophecy lie all over again. Another system of control that the Machines had over humans.

It's really hard to have an open conversation on this, because of the language barrier, but I'll keep trying.

As for putting the humans in Zion in the Matrix, first of all, they didn't have any plugs. Something tells me that you can't just cut an adult human open and insert these plugs into them and then jack that human into the Matrix after having experienced the real world their entire lives. In fact, it sounds to me like a guaranteed way to kill a human. Their minds would NEVER go for that. The humans in the Matrix are all set up with plugs and jacked into the system from a VERY young age (hence them showing that baby in a pod that's being filled up). Those in the real just couldn't handle that kind of change physically as well as mentally.

Secondly, the sentinels were sent to Zion to kill its inhabitants. There was no use of the humans in Zion, because the Machines thought they understood everything they could ever need to know about human beings. I mean, they successfully destroyed Zion and rebuilt it multiple times already. No, they have no need for the Zionites. They are simply a system of control for the next cycle, and that is it. Target practice.

Also, the Merovingian kidnapping the keymaker was, as far as I understood it, a one-time occurrence. I don't think that every single "One" before had to fight the Merovingian's henchmen in order to get the keymaker. There's nothing to state to the contrary, but at the same time, there's nothing to state that it always happens that way either.

As for Asimov's laws and how they apply to Smith, he wasn't really a robot. He was a computer program that appeared to be allowed to kill humans. I don't think Asimov's laws applied to the Matrix. I think it was a distortion of the laws, where perhaps killing one human was acceptable if in doing so you save countless others.

Look at it this way, the very EXISTENCE of Agents and how they operate (not just smith) negates Asimov's laws. For instance, if an Agent takes over a human's body and is then killed, the HUMAN is killed, not the AGENT. Therefore, there are acceptable levels of human death to the machines in this system.
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Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-23-2010, 11:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-23-2010, 12:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-23-2010, 01:29 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-23-2010, 01:41 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neo VII - 02-23-2010, 01:49 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-23-2010, 04:15 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Valaro - 02-23-2010, 11:55 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Yamakuzy - 02-24-2010, 12:38 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Yamakuzy - 02-24-2010, 04:03 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Valaro - 02-24-2010, 04:02 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 07:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 07:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 08:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 08:58 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 09:13 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 11:05 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 11:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-24-2010, 12:02 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-24-2010, 02:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 08:43 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 10:51 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-24-2010, 11:04 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-24-2010, 11:54 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 02:40 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:50 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 04:01 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 04:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 04:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 04:54 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 06:18 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 06:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 07:23 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 08:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 08:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 10:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 10:24 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 10:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-25-2010, 11:24 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 11:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-25-2010, 11:49 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 12:42 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 01:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 01:34 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 02:26 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-25-2010, 02:38 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-25-2010, 03:50 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:54 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-25-2010, 03:21 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-26-2010, 03:26 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-27-2010, 05:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 04:55 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 05:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 09:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 09:33 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-26-2010, 12:37 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by EichDee - 02-26-2010, 04:31 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-26-2010, 11:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-27-2010, 02:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 02:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Twaggy - 02-27-2010, 02:41 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 03:30 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 04:07 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-27-2010, 04:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 07:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 07:42 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 08:08 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 02-27-2010, 05:22 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-27-2010, 08:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 09:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-27-2010, 10:09 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 02-27-2010, 09:53 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-01-2010, 02:46 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 02-28-2010, 12:40 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 02-28-2010, 12:51 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 02-28-2010, 07:26 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 01:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 03:20 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 04:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 05:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 07:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-02-2010, 08:22 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 10:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 11:04 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 01:30 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-02-2010, 02:47 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-02-2010, 03:52 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 12:00 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 06:18 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 01:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:04 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 03:11 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 03:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 03:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 04:14 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 04:21 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 06:25 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 06:42 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 03-03-2010, 06:29 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-03-2010, 06:43 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 07:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 03-03-2010, 08:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 09:30 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 09:53 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-03-2010, 03:37 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-03-2010, 01:18 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-03-2010, 09:58 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 12:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-04-2010, 01:44 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 05:41 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-04-2010, 06:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-04-2010, 07:45 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-04-2010, 07:52 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-04-2010, 08:00 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-04-2010, 08:12 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-07-2010, 12:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Mindsweep - 03-10-2010, 07:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-10-2010, 08:23 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-11-2010, 08:15 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-10-2010, 08:48 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-10-2010, 08:57 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-11-2010, 08:14 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-12-2010, 10:34 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-12-2010, 01:02 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-12-2010, 03:24 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neoteny - 03-12-2010, 05:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-12-2010, 11:58 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by EichDee - 03-12-2010, 12:48 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-12-2010, 10:10 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-12-2010, 10:43 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Sixxth - 03-12-2010, 11:47 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Neo VII - 03-13-2010, 12:59 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-13-2010, 01:35 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-13-2010, 02:08 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Gerik - 03-13-2010, 02:39 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-13-2010, 02:44 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-13-2010, 04:31 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-13-2010, 06:06 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-20-2010, 08:03 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-21-2010, 01:47 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Metalogic - 03-21-2010, 12:12 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-21-2010, 08:32 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by cloudwolf - 03-21-2010, 10:18 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Kid - 03-21-2010, 11:16 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Noxton - 03-22-2010, 01:10 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by TRX - 09-06-2011, 11:36 AM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by Barloke - 04-27-2010, 02:52 PM
RE: Possible Story Ideas - by dean graziosi - 04-20-2011, 07:30 PM

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