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Reinsertion
01-20-2010, 10:31 AM,
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RE: Reinsertion
(01-20-2010, 07:09 AM)Hydrazine Wrote: It wasnt until after he did the event with cryptos, gray, and veil, that we found in Matrix Comic, book II, there was a reinsertion done. Matrix Comics were approved by the brothers and IMO that means it was possible to do a reinsertion.


Except that that wasn't a full reinsertion. Hitch still had his memories. Cypherites desire full reinsertion. This includes the following ...

1. Being put back into the pods.

2. Having your memories erased.

3. Spending the rest of your life in the Matrix.

It should be noted that an old Zion mission (somewhere in chapter 3, I believe, after Cryptos showed up in the story) had a person in a similar situation as Hitch. She had be put back into the pods (Anome described her as a "retired" Zion operative that decided to live in the Matrix as a bluepill) but her memories weren't altered.

The fact is that no Matrix story so far has shown us a full reinsertion. Thus, it's entirely possible that Gray was telling the truth.

Of course, this opens up a lot of questions. For one: why is reinsertion impossible? Unlike a butterfly's cocoon, a person doesn't "outgrow" the pods. They can still be hooked back into the Matrix. And we know the Machines can alter and erase memories. That leaves number three on my list. Perhaps the Machines can reinsert people, but they eventually go back to rejecting the System and being pulled out again. There's nothing to suggest that full reinsertion removes that old splinter in the mind that originally got the "reinsertee" out of the Matrix. So perhaps that's why the Machines view it as "impossible".

But there is also the possibility that Gray was lying. Perhaps they were worried about putting Cryptos (who was, at that time, a strange and unpredictable merger of man and Machine due to Seraph's failed extraction of the Program within him) back into the System. Or the Machines lied to the Cypherites in order to get them fired up. Or perhaps they wanted Cryptos to continue to be active because they were worried what would happen if Veil held the reins.
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Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-19-2010, 11:22 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by QuiDormit - 01-19-2010, 11:48 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by Gerik - 01-19-2010, 11:49 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by Neoteny - 01-20-2010, 01:43 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-20-2010, 12:28 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Neo VII - 01-20-2010, 01:14 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by QuiDormit - 01-20-2010, 01:32 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-20-2010, 01:43 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Hydrazine - 01-20-2010, 07:09 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by QuiDormit - 01-20-2010, 07:23 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Othinn - 01-20-2010, 10:31 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Skyscream - 01-20-2010, 08:26 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Synapze777 - 01-20-2010, 08:30 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-20-2010, 08:50 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by EichDee - 01-20-2010, 09:05 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-20-2010, 09:31 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Spectator - 01-20-2010, 10:12 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by EichDee - 01-20-2010, 11:57 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-20-2010, 01:08 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by Morpheus - 01-20-2010, 09:30 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by MajTom - 01-20-2010, 09:32 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Vesuveus - 01-20-2010, 02:22 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by The Black Widow - 01-22-2010, 02:13 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by Vesuveus - 01-22-2010, 03:03 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by Othinn - 01-22-2010, 05:17 PM
RE: Reinsertion - by Valaro - 01-23-2010, 02:44 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-23-2010, 03:33 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Broker - 01-23-2010, 03:43 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-23-2010, 03:47 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Vesuveus - 01-23-2010, 04:54 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-23-2010, 05:03 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Morpheus - 01-23-2010, 06:46 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-23-2010, 07:24 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Valaro - 01-23-2010, 07:57 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-23-2010, 07:57 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Valaro - 01-23-2010, 08:00 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-23-2010, 08:09 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by cloudwolf - 01-23-2010, 08:04 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Valaro - 01-23-2010, 08:15 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by Metalogic - 01-23-2010, 08:17 AM
RE: Reinsertion - by MajTom - 01-23-2010, 08:16 AM

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